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PAST LIVES - TUDOR WIVES - JANE SEYMOUR - PAGE 3

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- Jane Seymour ( c. 1508-1512/1513-1537) was Queen of England as the
3rd wife of King Henry VIII from May 30, 1536, until her death the next year.
- She became queen following the execution of Henry's 2nd wife, Anne Boleyn, who was accused by Henry of adultery after failing to produce a male heir.
- The engagement took place 1 day after Anne died and the wedding took place 10 days
later.
- Jane, however, died of postnatal complications less than
2 weeks after the birth of her only child, the future King
Edward VI who was born on October 12, 1537. - Quiet, careful, obedient, succeeding where
others failed by giving Henry a son, and dying 12 days later
from an infection that modern medicine would treat before
breakfast. - Her worth measured entirely by the child she
produced and a quick death and her life ending at the exact
moment she fulfilled her only function.
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Commons Jane Seymour - 1536 |
- Jane Seymour (c. 1508-1512/1513-1537) was Queen of England as the
3rd wife of King Henry VIII from May 30, 1536, until her death the next year.
- Little is really known about her and she remains the
most enigmatic of Henry's queens. - She was born in the
early 16th-century sometime between 1504 and 1509 at Wolf Hall
in Wiltshire.
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- Sir John Seymour, Knight banneret (c.1474-1536) was an English soldier and a courtier who served both Henry VII and Henry VIII.
- Born into a prominent gentry family, he is best known as the father of Henry VIII's
3rd wife, Jane Seymour, and hence the maternal grandfather of king Edward VI of England.
- Four of the Seymour children achieved prominence at the royal court: Edward, Thomas, Jane and Elizabeth.
- Her mother was Marjorie Wentworth and her father was Sir
John Seymour were not part of the nobility but were still part
of England's well-to-do Gentry.
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- Additionally, Jane was a descendant of King
Edward III through his son, Lionel of Antwerp who was
the 1st Duke of Clarence. - Sir John Seymour had
done well under Henry VII being knighted in return for
his efforts against a Cornish rebellion and he was
also sheriff and Justice of the Peace for Wiltshire.
- Jane was also part of a large family, she was one of
10 siblings, 4 of whom would not survive to adulthood.
- Two of her brothers, Edward and Thomas Seymour would
go on to have prominent roles but her brother Henry
led a quiet life as a country gentleman. - Her 2
sisters, Elizabeth and Dorothy went on to have good
marriages into the Gentry and nobility.
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- You might say that nothing about Jane was very
exciting or enticing. - She was medium height, with a
whitish complexion so she was overly pale, and she
wasn't very smart and was called a woman of little wit
and she was not highly educated. - Her parents had
given her a very traditional education for a young
woman only expected to marry well and produce heirs
while helping manage an estate. - As an
adult, Jane could read but she could not write
anything more than her own name. - She would have
learned about household management, cooking, riding
and needle work and this is the skill in which Jane
excelled and examples of her tapestries survived until
1652.
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- When she was just a teenager she was sent to court
as a maid of honor to Queen Catherine of Aragon who
she idolized and modeled her own court after in later
years. - When Henry VIII put Catherine aside for
Anne Boleyn she was always a firm supporter of
Catherine although her sisters supported Anne. -
At the time she was a maid of honor Anne Boleyn was a
lady in waiting so it's likely they knew each other.
- Although many confirmed
that her personality was 'diametrically opposed' to Anne
Boleyn's. - By Christmas 1533, Jane was working in Anne
Boleyn's household as one of her ladies in waiting
because she knew staying with Catherine of Aragon
wasn't the way forward. - Henry VIII presented
gifts to all of Anne's ladies, who there were many of,
at Christmas therefore at the least, he may have known
about her.
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- On top of
that Jane Seymour was already 27 years old when Henry VIII married her
which is considered a bit old for a bride in Tudor England.
- Put it this way, she didn't look or act anything like Jane
Seymour the current day actress, although many equate the two
to each other and romanticize Henry's wife. - In fact, she
wasn't known to be pretty and was a plain Jane, but Henry
appreciated her because she was willing to take a back
seat, unlike Anne Boleyn.
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- Some of Henry VIIIs courtiers have spoken about her
in a very unglamorous way. - She cultivated an image of
innocent, virtuous, virginal, pious and submissive, but to
what extent was this true? - Jane wasn't very worldly
either, the complete opposite of Anne Boleyn who had traveled
all over Europe with the French royals. - She could speak
French so that makes her sound more internationally 'educated'
but you have to remember that parts of France were controlled
by England back then so undoubtedly she had friends and close
relatives who spoke French and she picked up the language that
way. - Although more than likely, she could speak enough
French to carry on a simple conversation but that was about
it. - Jane might have been ambitious but she hid it under
a veil of demure innocence with a quiet, easy to
please demeanor, which was something Henry idolized in
his mother, and Jane seemed to be held to this
standard.
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- But on the other hand, 27 is a much better age to
birth a child and everyone knows that was Henry's main goal
and speculate that's the reason he chose her. - Also, he
knew that she had small traces (essence) of the Sophia, the Queen of
Heaven built in, although less of Sophia than any other of
Henry's wives. - Because she
was still young, she was very healthy, had a nice shape and was a more
perfect age to mother a child than a younger woman would have
been. - Most women in her class were at least engaged by
their mid-teens.
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- It was in September 1535, that Henry really began to
take notice of Jane and his relationship with Anne
Boleyn had been stormy for a long time after marrying
her in January 1533 and the two regularly argued.
- Added to that, Anne still hadn't given him the much
longed for son he desired and he only needed the right
pretty face to drive a wedge between them. - In
September Henry decided to visit Wolf Hall and as
Jane's family were only Gentry, a royal visit was a
very big deal. - It was also an extremely expensive
undertaking as the royal family and their retainers
had to be taken care of and usually a somewhat
nebulous amount of time, but the King was known to be
pleasant and not demanding of his host. - Jane was
a stark contrast to Anne Boleyn who was vivacious and
exotic in her French dress and fiery in her opinions.
- Many have called her flirtatious but she was
never a flirt and she remained loyal to Henry even
though he trapped her in that marriage.
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- But another thing about Jane was that Henry wasn't
really that thrilled when he had to take her out in public and
she was hanging off his arm. - Although they were only
married for about 17 months and half that time she was
pregnant which gave him an excuse not to take her out at all.
- So really, he only had to worry about her hanging off his
arm for about 8 months and then she was mysteriously dead.
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- As to how virtuous Jane Seymour really was, in the
1580s, Catholic writer Nicholas Sanders wrote that while she
was still pregnant, Anne Boleyn had walked in and found Jane
sitting on the king's knee. - This led to a huge row
between the royal couple and to Anne blaming a miscarriage on
the actions of Henry and Jane, who she called an 'abandoned
woman.' - However, this story is not true and Sanders is the same author who wrote that Anne had 6
fingers on her hand which was also not true.
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- There were other authors who wrote
that Anne and Jane came to blows and that Anne had ripped a
pendant off Jane's neck with Henry's portrait. - But this
was also a lie, Jane didn't have a portrait of Henry
she wore around her neck and Anne never ripped any
such thing off her. -
Additionally, Eustace Chapuys started many of the rumors going
around but he was a well-known gossip and critic of Anne
Boleyn's and he started most of the lies about her. - He was
one of the courtiers who saw a way to use Jane to be
rid of Anne Boleyn, encouraged Henry in his efforts to
have an affair with her. - The males in Anne's own
family were part of those who despised Anne no doubt
also encouraged Jane to show the king some affection
to give him hope.
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- Charles V (1500-1558 was Holy Roman Emperor and Archduke of Austria from 1519 to 1556, King of Spain (as Charles I) from 1516 to 1556, King of Sicily and Naples from 1516 to 1554, and also Lord of the Netherlands and titular Duke of Burgundy (as Charles II) from 1506 to 1555.
- He was heir to and then head of the rising House of Habsburg. His dominions in Europe included the Holy Roman Empire, extending from Germany to northern Italy with rule over the Austrian hereditary lands and Burgundian Low Countries, and Spain with its possessions of the southern Italian kingdoms of Sicily, Naples, and Sardinia.
- In the Americas, he oversaw the continuation of Spanish colonization and a short-lived German colonization.
- The personal union of the European and American territories he ruled was the first collection of realms labeled
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- When the two were back in court their affair
seemed to intensify and many gossips reported that the
king seemed to be in love again. - Obviously, Jane was
little more than a tool used by ruthless and ambitious
family, but this really sells her very short. - Jane
was also being courted at this time by those who wanted
an alliance once more between the Holy Roman Emperor,
Charles V, and Henry VIII.
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- The unknown question is about Jane's personality,
whether she was encouraging or simply enduring Henry's
attentions. - As time went on though, some believed
that Jane was very much aiming to displace Anne although this
is not true, she deflected him much the same way as Anne had. - In March
1536, the same month as Anne's miscarriage, Chapuys remarked
that the King had been in London and the young Miss Seymour,
to whom he was paying court at Greenwich Palace was also
there.
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- Sir Nicholas Carew (c. 1496-1539), of Beddington in Surrey, was an English courtier and diplomat during the reign of King Henry VIII.
- He was executed for his alleged part in the Exeter Conspiracy. - Henry VIII sent Nicholas Carew to Jane
in 1536 with a purse full of sovereigns,
together with a love letter for Jane. - The young damsel, kissed the
letter but without opening it, returned it to the messenger
then fell to her knees and told him she was from good parents
and without blame or reproach. - And that there was no treasure she valued more than
her honor and in no account would she lose it and she asked
him to only send a gift of money at the time she was lucky
enough to encounter an 'advantageous' marriage when God might
send her a husband to marry. - Supposedly Jane had
accepted all gifts to this point, except this was all a
lie, because Henry sent Carew there with a letter thanking
Jane for being so supportive of Anne Boleyn during her pregnancy.
- Where all these current day 'historians' get their
vicious stories is unknown.
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- It's
said that Jane was attempting to disentangle herself from
Henry, and this was the same way that Anne had dealt with him a
decade earlier refusing to become his mistress and holding out
for marriage. - So once again, the tactic appeared to work
for Henry. - But Henry the snake didn't start chasing Jane
around after Anne Boleyn miscarried, not before. - Chapuys source also told him that, 'In
consequence of this refusal of the King's love for the said
damsel had marvelously increased, and that he had said to her
that not only did he praise and commend her virtuous behavior
on the occasion, but that in order to prove the sincerity of
his love, and the honesty of his views towards her, he had
resolved not to converse with her in the future, except in the
presence of one of her relatives.'
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- For this reason, the King had taken away a room from
Cromwell's apartments, to which he could, when he liked, have
access through certain galleries without being seen. - A
room which the young lady's elder brother and his wife had
already taken possession 'for the express purpose of her
repairing thither.' - Unlike Anne, who seems to have taken
the lead in her management of Henry back in the day, because
no, her family wasn't pimping her out, Jane was getting help
from her family and she was to some extent a pawn of those
around her who were Anne's enemies. - But you also have to
take into consideration that her brother was the power
grubbing Edward Seymour who was really Musk (Satan).
- Many have claimed that it was also arranged that Jane
would share this suite with her brother and sister-in-law
but none of this is true. - Jane had her own place,
why would she stay with her brother, and she was very
independent.
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- The courtiers warned
Jane that unlike the concubine (Anne) she should not give in
to the King's fancy unless he made her Queen. - Jane also
was obliged to tell Henry how much they all hated the
'concubine,' and that not one considered the marriage
legitimate. - Edward Seymour was always lurking around in
the background trying to suck up royal power and favors.
- You can't blame either Jane or Anne Boleyn for all
these treacherous males that hung around the Tudor court
lying and snivelling. - Plus, now you know the
manner of the creep (Musk) who played all their parts,
Satan himself. - Edward Seymour had already been
elevated to the King's Privy Chamber as reward.
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- News of the relationship had already circulated and
Henry VIII had to tell Jane to pay no mind to a pamphlet
making the rounds about them.
- He wrote a letter to Jane Seymour around May 20, 1536, warning her about a mocking ballad circulating against them while Anne Boleyn was awaiting execution. - But hidden in the letter is the news that Henry
would abduct Jane and keep her locked up until Anne's
passing while he pretended he was 'protecting' her from
the ballad writer (who undoubtedly never existed). - Because the part that everyone misses
about this letter was that Jane never received it until
Henry had stashed her away (under the pretense of
protection) and she was in the room that he had set up
for her 'wait.' - It was very obvious to Jane at this
point that Henry had set the whole thing up and she was
trapped. - She was more than a concubine, she was a prisoner.
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Whitehall in London |
- By the start of May 1536, Anne's fate was all but
sealed and she was arrested on the 2nd and along with
her brother and several other friends was charged with
treason and adultery and incest. - All while Henry VIII frolicked
around! - While Anne Boleyn's show trial (she had
already been convicted before the trial) was going
on, Jane was housed in Croydon, then at Chelsea near
Whitehall from May 14th onwards. - At both places she
was 'splendidly served' by the King's servants and
fabulously dressed as befitted her station as the Queen
in waiting but she was imprisoned there and couldn't
leave.
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- As soon as Anne was dead, Henry went to visit Jane
and now the way was clear for him to marry again, he
wasted no time - He and Jane were officially
betrothed at either Chelsea or Whitehall the very next
day. - Having been issued with a dispensation from
the Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Cranmer, on account
of them being 5th cousins and apparently because one of
Henry's mistresses at some point much have been 2nd
cousin. - A dispensation was official permission
from a religious authority to bypass standard church rule
and it gave an exemption from church law.
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Jane was trapped |
- The speed with which this had all happened did not
go unnoticed nor was it universally well thought. -
Although the part of the story that no one writes about
was that Jane was locked in her room and had been
sequestered by Henry's court. - She was trapped there
and was not free to come or go and then she found
herself in a chapel and married to him. - But none of
this was Jane's doing, he trapped her the same way he
trapped Anne Boleyn, only worse. - On the day of the engagement,
snake Eustace Chapuys was already writing, 'everybody
begins already to murmur by suspicion, and several
affirm that long before the death of the other there was
some arrangement which sounds ill in the ears of the
people.' - Even the unpopular Anne could garner some
sympathy when her treatment was this bad.
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- John Russell, 1st Earl of Bedford, KG, PC, JP (c.1485-1555) was an English royal minister in the Tudor era.
- He served variously as Lord High Admiral and Lord Privy Seal.
- Among the lands and property he was given by Henry
VIII after the dissolution of the monasteries, were
the Abbey and town of Tavistock, and the area that is
now Covent Garden. - Russell is the ancestor of all subsequent Earls and Dukes of Bedford and Earls Russell, including John Russell, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (1865–6), and Bertrand Russell, the philosopher (1872–1970). - Nevertheless, the wedding
of Henry and Jane went ahead at Whitehall
Palace on May 30, 1536. - Sir John Russell wrote
that 'Henry had come out of hell into heaven, for Jane
and not Anne was now the Queen of England' although he
forgot to mention that Jane was now in hell.
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- The marriage had been quiet and private as most of
Henry's weddings were, but Jane was introduced at court
during the Whitsuntide festivities. - Londoners got
their first look at the new Queen in June when she began
accompanying Henry to official engagements. - She
chose as her motto the words, 'Bound to obey and serve'
how amazing. - This was a stark contrast to one of
Anne Boleyn's mottos, 'This is how it's going to be, let
them grumble.' - This indicates the two women's two
very different attitudes to Queenship, marriage to
Henry, and how they wanted to present themselves. -
It appears that neither of them liked Henry VIII very
much.
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- Anne's falcon badges were also quickly replaced with
Jane Seymours. - As queen, politics almost immediately made
an entrance into her life. - Eustace Chapuys, the
Catholic gossip, told her that he hoped she would
deserve the title of pacifier by bringing by bringing
Princess Mary back into the fold. - Mary was indeed
reconciled to her father very soon after his 3rd
marriage to Jane, but only after she had capitulated to
his wishes, meaning that she had to admit that his
marriage to her mother, Catherine of Aragon, was
unlawful, she was illegitimate and that Henry was the
head of the Church in England. - Jane knew Princess
Mary in Catherine of Aragon's court because Mary was
just a few years younger than herself so when Jane
became queen, she did her best to repair the damage that
had been done to Mary by her parents separation.
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- Jane's influence in this rapprochement is unclear
but there is a story that she petitioned for Mary before
the marriage only to have Henry snap at her that she
should mind the exaltation of her own children if she
had any by him, instead of looking out for the good of
others. - But Jane responded that she was looking out
for the good of the kingdom in general. - She was
clearly able enough to handle Henry but supposedly came
across as less abrasive than Anne and she got along with
Mary far better too. - Jane then gave Mary a gift of
a diamond ring on their next visit and she did not
forget about Elizabeth either, though she was now
considered illegitimate as well. - Elizabeth had even
run out of clothes at one time now that her mother, Anne
Boleyn, was no longer sending them.

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- There early marriage was taken up with visits to
places like Dover Castle. - Additionally, there were
plans to have Jane crowned, as Henry's first 2 wives had
been. - An outbreak of plague put the brakes on this
event though, and in the end, Anne would never have a
coronation, nor would her 3 successors. - It appeared
that Henry VIII was waiting for them all to 'deliver'
but poor Jane died after doing so. - There were
other problems in the country too, most notably, the
Pilgrimage of Grace, which began that October 1536. -
This was an uprising sparked by Henry's dissolution of
the monasteries, his promotion of the English Bible, and
eradication of things like feast days and the loss of
Mary as his heir. - Those in rebellion also demanded
that Henry VIII have new counselors to advise him and a
trip to the chopping block for some of the old ones.
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- Robert Aske (c. 1500-1537) was an English lawyer who became a leader of the Pilgrimage of Grace uprising against the Suppression of Religious Houses Act 1535 in 1536.
- He was executed for treason against King Henry VIII on July
12, 1537. - During the Pilgrimage of Grace, Aske
led a procession of 40,000 people into the city of
York. - Some aristocrats joined in the uprising,
though many would later claim they had been forced to
do so, including Catherine Parr's 2nd husband, Lord
Latimer. - Henry did not take well to his authority
being challenged, but he was persuaded to issue a
general pardon to all involved in December.

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- Though when a 2nd round of rebellion broke out in
February, he initiated a brutal policy of regression
which led to hundreds, if not thousands of executions
across the north, including Robert Aske. - On top of that,
Aske had only recently been forgiven at court for the
Christmas celebrations. - But where was Jane in all
of this, remember, she was a Catholic, not a Lutheran
like Anne Boleyn, and she had begged Henry from her
knees to restore the abbeys. - He gave her a chilling
rebuke for her trouble, telling her not to meddle in his
affairs and reminding her what had happened to the last
Queen who had done so. - Jane wisely backed off,
knowing that such a threat from Henry needed to be taken
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- She was unlike Anne in other ways too, even
courting the friendship of Eustace Chapuys and telling
him that she encouraged Henry to maintain an alliance
with Spain, rather than France. - Even her ladies
were not to wear French clothing associated with Anne,
for Jane was a fairly strict mistress when it came to
her household and she told them to embrace the more
modest English apparel. - The most important way in
which she was to differ from her predecessor though, was
in her childbirth record. - In the midst of all the
drama stemming from the Pilgrimage, Jane suffered both a
great loss and made a great gain. - Her father died
on December 21, 1536, though she does not appear to have
left court to attend the funeral, and then, just a
matter of weeks later, she conceived.

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- It was 7 months into the marriage and it must have
been a relief to all, given the rumors already in
circulation since at least the trial of Anne Boleyn and
her co-accused, about Henry's performance in the
bedroom. - The pregnancy proceeded well with a
craving for quail eggs and by May 23 the happy news was
well known in court. - On September 16, Jane took to
her chamber in Hampton Court to await the birth and
she went into labor on October 10 and it was long and
drawn out. - Finally, on October 12, 1537, at 2am she
delivered and the baby was a healthy boy. - Henry
finally had his heir and he was ecstatic and the child
was named Edward, there were celebrations all over the
city and bonfires. - On the 15th, little Edward was
christened in the chapel at Hampton Court with his 2
sisters present, however, his mother continued to
recuperate in her bed chamber.
King Edward VI of England 1547 - 1553

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- Then came the disaster. - The labor had been long
and hard but Jane seemed to slowly recover and even wrote
a letter to Thomas Cromwell announcing the birth. - After 28 years of yearning for a male heir, Henry VIII
finally had what he desired with the birth of Edward VI. -
A child who was described by a chronicler as 'the most
beautiful boy ever seen, and a symbol of hope for the Tudor
dynasty.'
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- But after a few days, Jane was obviously sick. - There are
several theories on the exact cause of her death but it
was clearly complications from childbirth, or was it? - By
October 19, there were prayers and processions at St.
Paul's for her health and on the 23rd she suffered what
was called a 'lax' or hemorrhage. - At first
this seemed to help but then it became clear there was no
helping Jane, she deteriorated during the night.
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following day at about midnight, Jane succumbed
on October 24, still aged only about 28 or 29. - After
lying in state and a grand funeral, she was buried in St.
George's Chapel at Windsor Castle on November 13 with her
stepdaughter Mary as chief mourner.
- When Henry died in 1547, Henry was buried with her
making her the only one of his wives with whom he was
laid.
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- Edward VI took the throne at age 9, a child king,
surrounded by political factions tearing at each other for
influence. - Devoutly Protestant without knowing what
it really was, that all religion is fake and made up by
the fallen angels. - Intelligent, but also ignorant and
fragile, Edward died in 1553 at age 15, after having
reigned for 6 years and leaving nothing of lasting
significance behind.
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- Jane Seymour died on October 24, 1537, and was the only wife of Henry VIII to receive a queen's funeral, and Henry was later buried alongside her remains in St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle.
- Henry never got around to erecting a great tomb
and neither did his children, centuries later William IV
placed a marker on the floor. - Jane was unique because
she was the only wife who died on the job and had not been
abandoned by him first and the only one to give him a
surviving son.
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